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Is anyone experiencing poor gear selection in a manual LTZ for gears 1 and 2 ? Particularly from cold, its crunchy and almost impossible to select gears 1 or 2 until the engine is warm, and then only with a lot of crunchy fly wheel type engagement. I can only tell you what it sounds and feels like ?

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Sometimes I get this in 1st from cold but never 2nd gear, I never force it into gear though (as my driving instructor once told me), I just quickly go into neutral, dis-engage then re-engage the clutch then 1st gear slides in perfectly. Reverse does this too but very rarely. Neither are a problem after 20 mins driving or so.


I've owned Peugeot's, Renault's and Honda's over the years and all had their unique gearbox quirks when cold.
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I get a very stiff engage or a slight crunch when going in to 3rd, not the 1st or the 2nd gears? It does not just happen when the car is cold but even when it has been run and warmed up. The frustrating thing is it will occur once or twice during the commute to and from work, or not at all.

It is so unpredictable? could this be the start to having to have the clutch replaced?
 

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If you look back a bit in some of the captiva postings, someone else had problems, they had a new gearbox, but that may not be your problem.
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I have noticed the following issues with my 61 plate
LTZ

1. 1. Very
difficult to change from 1<sup>st</sup> to 2 nd gear particularly when the
engine is cold. Like changing gear in a very old tractor you really have to
pull on the gearstick.

2. 2. Intermittent
groaning noise from gearbox / clutch in low gears which is more evident when
engine is cold or you are reversing up hill.

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in my new 2011-12 manual 6 speed i am having issues with 1st and 2nd gears, particularly 2nd gear. The issue sounds identical to the way you describe. I had Chevrolet out to my 5 month old 5000 mile car, and they said that the gearbox is "agricultural" and wont get much better, but they did find that the clutch had a slave cylinder leak andmisaligned forks.<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253; ">

<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253; ">This has improved gear entry, but not the crunchyness, its very offputting .... i am getting new cables and had a new clutch assembly and slave cylinder as the leak was significant.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253; ">have to say, very poor, but at least chevrolet are listening .... the more i get into this car, the more i feel unhappy .... see my other threads on warranty issues.
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<div style=": rgb251, 251, 253; ">From XJC a while back...
 

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Exactly the same with an identical model.Still like it though and it soon warms up.
 

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Indeed, some levers respond well to slow, gentle handling. Fnarr fnarr.

The gearchange on mine (2008 model) can be baulky when cold, but always improves as it warms up.
 

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Anyone tried double declutching when cold to see if that improves it? Perhaps you are all too young to be skilled in that art



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Anyone tried double declutching when cold to see if that improves it? Perhaps you are all too young to be skilled in that art

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Yes jeg had a Honda N600 if you can remember them had a Honda two cylinder air cooled motor bike engine in them had to double declutch on that. regarding the gear changes I have an auto so not experienced it but do not forget your driving a budget 4x4 not a X5 just give the baulk rings and syncrose time to match gear speeds or they will block the change or crunch the gears especially when the gearbox oil is cold and thickwith thetolerancesincorrect, the more pressure those small syncrose are under the worse they will become when cold or in fact not at alldo not snatch at the stick but with the palm of the hand slowly guide it into gear and give the so called tractor box time to sort its self out, I bet the drivers out there with a feather touch that guide instead of pushinghave no bother at all.
 

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jegrugby said:
Anyone tried double declutching when cold to see if that
improves it?
Yep - works for me. There's an uphill junction at the start of my commute where you need to drop 2nd to 1st to keep the car moving. Double declutching works a treat.

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do not snatch at the stick but with the palm of the hand slowly guide it into gear
This ^^. A little mechanical sympathy goes a long way...
 
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